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 Post subject: Slots Editorial: Bad Smell At Aqueduct
PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:33 pm 
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I keep telling the bride it's time to start thinking about bailing out of this state but she's a stubborn Queens girl.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/201 ... educt.html

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 Post subject: Re: Slots Editorial: Bad Smell At Aqueduct
PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:45 pm 
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I don't care who runs it, the state loses Billions a year. Nobody cares about that. In the mean time NYRA has them, (the STATE) by the balls, with our money. Remember the deal?? We pay until the one arm badits are up and running.


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 Post subject: Re: Slots Editorial: Bad Smell At Aqueduct
PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:30 pm 
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too bad..a dying sport in a dying state with a dead in the water moronic governor..floyd flake at least knows enough to grope his assistants in the church basement. When did the Big A become the woodpile?


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 Post subject: Re: Slots Editorial: Bad Smell At Aqueduct
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:11 pm 
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lukeydog wrote:
too bad..a dying sport in a dying state with a dead in the water moronic governor..floyd flake at least knows enough to grope his assistants in the church basement. When did the Big A become the woodpile?


Only in YOUR :mrgreen: imagination. Never let the FACTS get in the way of your :roll:
distortion. Clearly, you're not one of the "big players" :mrgreen:

Last year, there was $14.3 billion bet on thoroughbred racing in America. Less than 5 percent of the 50,000-plus races in North America in 2009 were held in New York — yet more than 18 percent of those wagers — $2.2 billion–was bet on racing in New York. You don’t have to be a racing expert to know that the big players focus their attention– and their money– on New York because we offer a superior product, and you don’t have to be a mathematician to understand the importance of that revenue to the state’s economy.


http://blog.timesunion.com/horseracing/ ... cing/3938/


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 Post subject: Re: Slots Editorial: Bad Smell At Aqueduct
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:33 pm 
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Wooley, both NYRA and the State of New York are broke.

Handle on a loser is not the way to judge financial success.

The NYRA purses are propped up by a house of cards provided by the taxpayers.

Unless the state and NYRA catch billions and millions of dollars in borrowed money (respectively) both are going belly up.

Many years ago I tried to pay bills for the mortgage, fuel oil, gas & electric, two cars, and some credit cards. I borrowed money to do it, understood that I was going to collapse financially, and pulled back hard on the money reins.

I miss the fast car and the night clubs but as an old fart the bus is OK and I'm loving the paid-off roof over my head.

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 Post subject: Re: Slots Editorial: Bad Smell At Aqueduct
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:28 pm 
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You are sooo behind the times.

The FACT that NYRA dominates the wagering means NYRA racing is successful with pitiful purses vs the cost of racing in NY. Penn runs 5k claimers for 20k.
Your rant over taxpayer money can be applied to just about everything in NY. Boring and irrelevant. Rings hollow. A senseless rant.

Why don't you carp that the state should cut the take they grab from the NYRA handle?
Or that corrupt NYOTB drains every one including NYRA. Or unions should be banned from NYRA services because those dregs sandbag work and overcharge for everying...vacations, health care, sick days...
NYRA is at the mercy of the state...it is a "mother may I" deal with the corupt NYS politicos.
NYRA doesn't have the autonomy to do what they want w/o the state looking to corral more from NYRA's handle.

You should move...join that turkey in Arkansas or Mississippi...low taxes, easy living...you could go "possum hunting" with that dolt...



1/4 Pole wrote:
Wooley, both NYRA and the State of New York are broke.

Handle on a loser is not the way to judge financial success.

The NYRA purses are propped up by a house of cards provided by the taxpayers.

Unless the state and NYRA catch billions and millions of dollars in borrowed money (respectively) both are going belly up.

Many years ago I tried to pay bills for the mortgage, fuel oil, gas & electric, two cars, and some credit cards. I borrowed money to do it, understood that I was going to collapse financially, and pulled back hard on the money reins.

I miss the fast car and the night clubs but as an old fart the bus is OK and I'm loving the paid-off roof over my head.


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 Post subject: Re: Slots Editorial: Bad Smell At Aqueduct
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:50 pm 
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Ya Gotta Love Ole Woolley
Answer to Everything is Badmouth The Questioner

WOOley needs to Look at How a Rink a Dink Place like Tampa Bay Downs in Florida can Run Races without Taxpayer Welfare and By God MAKE A PROFIT !!

See the Magic word is Profit . A word Socialits like Wooley Never Get . When the Welfare looks to dry up BLAME SCREAM POINT BADMOUTH

People Who Work Milking the Industry , People Who Work for NYRA or a Barn Milking the Industry Ought to Disclose That Ahead of Time . Every Milkman has Nothing But Good to Pass on About NY Racing , NY Boat Purses , NYRA Execs Etc Etc . Note How the Politicians Sucking the Bucks in Milk the Cronies in Line to Get in On the Action .

Seems like Every Regular Joe Gambler or Horse Player Knows The Score , Has Known the Score But The Milkers want to BadMouth and Demean them .

Reality is TUNE is All SUNG . The Cow [ NY State ] Has No Milk Left . Plain and Simple . \

Maybe There are a Few Cows Left in Canada EHHHHH

All you Socialist welfare Recipiants Need to Find a New Home

NY RACING will Come Back , IT Will AFTER THE BLOODSUCKERS ARE REMOVED .

By the Way , Any of my Friends are welcome in Arkansas Anytime . Nice Little Profitable Racetrack [ Oaklawn ] Running in the Winter in a City with a Year Round Population under $30,000. Word to the Wise , Bloodsuckers are given 1 Way Tickets out Not CASH Bonuses From Taxpayers on Arrival . The 1 way ticket most Requested NY CITY


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 Post subject: Re: Slots Editorial: Bad Smell At Aqueduct
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:16 am 
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Wooley is wonderful:

Wooley: "The FACT that NYRA dominates the wagering means NYRA racing is successful with pitiful purses vs the cost of racing in NY."

The true "fact" is that NYRA loses money any time a horse sets foot on the tack. The cost of racing far exceeds what comes in.

Wooley: "NYRA is at the mercy of the state."

The 'state' is broke and so is NYRA. When you spend more than is coming in you are 'busted' and not in a good deal. The state? Why should the 'state', upon the taxpayers' back, keep horse racing going? Maybe the state should keep my busted frog racing in business. After all, Wooley thinks the 'state' owes everybody. Who is the 'state'? It's the tapped out taxpayers, that's who.

Wooley no doubt voted for Obama and truly believes that the government can make everything OK.

Guys like Yorker and me think otherwise and keep our muskets clean.

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 Post subject: Re: Slots Editorial: Bad Smell At Aqueduct
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:52 am 
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You are so far off base. Horse racing is GAMBLING. GAMBLING is controlled by the STATE.
Would NYRA be better off running as a for profit....absolutely. No unions, no state taking the handle from NYRA. NYRA could set their own takout and could charge what they wanted to anyone who wanted their signal unlike what they do now..give it for free to NYOTB and NassauOTB (also supported by taxpayers via the state)

Any idiot knows once the government gets involved, it is all over.
Unfortunately, there are no politicians "for the masses". Unless you have alot of big$$$$ backing you, you cannot even get elected as a representative from some crappy hamlet.
Politicians only goal is to get elected, then get reelected. And NYSpoliticos have a death-grip on racing and gambling in NY.
Your expenses have gone up. Why don't you think NYRA's expenses have done the same without a reduction in kickback to the state? Maybe IF the NYOTB payed NYRA the 14MILLION they owe NYRA would have the cash the need.

This diatribe of NYRA is "bleeding the taxpayer is getting really old". Why don't you change your tune...welfare is bleeding the taxpayers...medicaide is bleeding the taxpayers...civil service unions are bleeding the taxpayers...nystate employees are bleeding the taxpayers...MTA is bleeding the taxpayers... trade unions are bleeding the taxpayers...

You throw around statements that have no validity...nothing to back up your OPINIONS which you attempt to pass off as fact. Prove "every time a horse steps on the terack, NYRA loses money" All bs.


1/4 Pole wrote:
Wooley is wonderful:

Wooley: "The FACT that NYRA dominates the wagering means NYRA racing is successful with pitiful purses vs the cost of racing in NY."

The true "fact" is that NYRA loses money any time a horse sets foot on the tack. The cost of racing far exceeds what comes in.

Wooley: "NYRA is at the mercy of the state."

The 'state' is broke and so is NYRA. When you spend more than is coming in you are 'busted' and not in a good deal. The state? Why should the 'state', upon the taxpayers' back, keep horse racing going? Maybe the state should keep my busted frog racing in business. After all, Wooley thinks the 'state' owes everybody. Who is the 'state'? It's the tapped out taxpayers, that's who.

Wooley no doubt voted for Obama and truly believes that the government can make everything OK.

Guys like Yorker and me think otherwise and keep our muskets clean.


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 Post subject: Re: Slots Editorial: Bad Smell At Aqueduct
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:11 pm 
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Wooley

Sounds Like We all Agree . Shutdown the Friggin Track , Boot all the Welfare Recipiants , No free Rides for NY Anybodies or ANYHORSES . Win Open Races for Open Purses , Get Entrepenuers involved And Who Knows Maybe NY Racing can Return

Right Now NYRA CrumBums LOSES Tons On Their Own . This Het Hey Heywood fella Gets 1 Quarter Mill or More a Year to LOSE MONEY and Point Fingers . Where Do I get A Job Like That . Whine Point and get Rich !!!

Its All a Moot Point this Time Around . Any Political Hack who Gives Money to NYRA in a Bailout will See their Opponent Win . So guess What , Elections are AFTER BROKE DAY !!! NO DINERO coming to the NYRA Whiners and Threateners .


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